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Hummingbird
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posted December 16, 1999 09:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hummingbird     Edit/Delete Message
My counselor is letting me borrow these tapes. There are 5 in total I think. I have 2 right now and me and my husband are going to start watching tonight.

Just looking for your opinions. Anyone used them or can give me some insight on how helpful they are?

Thanks

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lostva
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posted December 16, 1999 10:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lostva     Edit/Delete Message
I haven't heard the tapes but I liked the book. Generally speaking, with a few exceptions, I think he's got it nailed down.

Let us know what you think.

Lori

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ThisAlex
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posted December 16, 1999 10:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ThisAlex     Edit/Delete Message
Have read about the tapes & know about the book and everybody says they're good. W used to have the book and insisted that I read it- I didn't, guess she was trying to tell me something and I missed it. Is your H also listenting to the tapes or reading the book? It could probably help.

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Susan
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posted December 16, 1999 10:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Susan     Edit/Delete Message
We have both books, the original and also Venus and Mars in the Bedroom. They are both good in my opinion. The hard part for me is separating what you know as truth and fact in your mind and then controlling your heart and feelings.

Know what I mean?????

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professorg
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posted December 16, 1999 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for professorg     Edit/Delete Message
Hummingbird,
I read the book after I read HN,HN. I liked HN, HN better because it left it more open to everyone is right which is impossible. Everyone can never be right when some of those rights are diametrically opposed to other rights. Just how I felt about the overall book. Most of what he says is the same as what is in HN, HN.

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Rob


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Lost to lesbian
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posted December 16, 1999 10:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lost to lesbian     Edit/Delete Message
Yes I bought the series about a year ago. They gave me a greater insight about the differences of men and women. I have watched them numerous times, only problem is the wife will not watch them. But I truly believe if both watch them they can be of great benefit, to a marriage. However both must be commited to the relationship.
Good Luck

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Hummingbird
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posted December 16, 1999 11:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hummingbird     Edit/Delete Message
Everything I'vd heard so far is all good about him and his material.

I'm really excited and looking forward to watching the videos. My husband isn't much of a book reader, so the video tapes should be a great tool for him. We're going to start watching one tonight.

The first one is Marucians and Venusicans, goes into detail on exactly how men and women are different. The 2nd is on learning how to communicate.

I watched the first 10 minutes alone this morning, and he was very good. He talked about how when we're first attracted to someone it has all to do with chemistry and that we are only attracted to people who are different than us, and how we can even exaggerate how we are similar in the beginning for example "yeah, and we both love coffee", and then once we're married and together for awhile all those differences really start bothering us and affecting the relationship.

It really hit home with me because one of the reasons why I feel I fell in love with my OM was because we were so similar, all our likes, dreams, etc.

I'll let you all know about them when I'm done.

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Susan
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posted December 16, 1999 11:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Susan     Edit/Delete Message
Please don't wait till you are done, fill us in along as you watch them.

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Faith Hope Love
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posted December 16, 1999 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith Hope Love     Edit/Delete Message
I bought the book for a quarter at a used book sale. I had scanned it a few years ago, but now I'll pull it out and read it quickly.

Sometimes I think that the title is an understatement. Sometimes I think my H is from a different solar system

Please give us updates!

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Faith, Hope, Love Remain,
but the greatest of these is Love.
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KarmaGrrl
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posted December 16, 1999 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarmaGrrl     Edit/Delete Message
And once you get John Gray's stuff digested - you might want to consider the other side of his philosophies by reading "Rebuttal from Uranus" at http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/women_rebuttal_from_uranus/welcome.htm

The intro reads:

This page is exclusively for the critical review and analysis of the enormously popular (as puzzling as that may be) self-help book Men Are from Mars, Women Are from Venus: A Practical Guide for Improving Communication and Getting What You Want in Your Relationships (New York: HarperCollins, 1992). Despite its promotional hype, at its very core it is a sexist, patronizing, male-centered invective which does little more than perpetuate long-held negative gender stereotypes.

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NeverAgain
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posted December 16, 1999 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NeverAgain     Edit/Delete Message
I read somewhere that the good Dr. Gray's own marriage didn't work out.

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new_beginning
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posted December 16, 1999 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for new_beginning     Edit/Delete Message
Karma - the "butt" and "anus" of Rebuttal from Uranus didn't get past me!!

Never Again, you are right. He was married to Barbara DeAngeles and they are divorced. Furthermore, John Gray has a bogus degree in Psych.

The book is fun, entertainment. Don't take it too seriously, Hum.

~Sheryl

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Life is what happens to you while you are busy making other plans.

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KarmaGrrl
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posted December 16, 1999 02:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarmaGrrl     Edit/Delete Message
Ya, new_beginning - it's an awfully cute web page title. Gotta love it!

At the end of the webpage are some book recommendations that are beyond the Mars/Venus sexist point of view - check them out.

There's something seriously wrong with John Gray, and my experienced radar as a makeup artist says "CROSSDRESSER!" It's the hair, the Richard Simmon's tears in his eyes, the lack of masculine behavior (pardon my sexism). I think he's got frilly panties under his suit.

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new_beginning
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posted December 16, 1999 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for new_beginning     Edit/Delete Message
Karma - HA! Right on the money about John Gray... I thought something seemed fishy... and I have waaaaaaaaaay more respect for Richard Simmons, who at least knows and loves who he is!!

~Sheryl

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Life is what happens to you while you are busy making other plans.

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Faith Hope Love
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posted December 16, 1999 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith Hope Love     Edit/Delete Message
Hummingbird, don't let the negative comments discourage you.

If you and your H can watch the tapes, see a little of yourself in them, laugh together maybe, then why not.

If communication is opened up, who cares if he is wearing panties.

Your a smart woman, you can filter what is of value and you can disagree and discuss all of this with your H.

I found with my H it is sometimes easier to discuss "in theory" rather than talk about "us"...I think because it is not so personal and neither one of us is defensive or sensitive like we can be when talking about "us".

Snuggle up, pop some popcorn and then open up to each other. Have a great evening.

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Faith, Hope, Love Remain,
but the greatest of these is Love.
1 Corinthians 13:13

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