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JandJ'sMom
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posted August 28, 2000 10:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JandJ'sMom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
F
Me 48 H49 OW 40
betrayed
15 yrs
8 mths
3 mths
7 mths 3 mths internet, 4 mths up close and personal
PA
2 1 1 night stand, 1 7 mths
no plan
together
divorced
internet
not mentioned. I several times have said "we're not going to make it." H says yes we will H for 2 1/2 mths after D-Day thought all was well. Really trying now, both of us.
None yet
Hi it's my first post


2 sons 12-14
both
Ow has 3 2 grown 1 12 yr old H met and spent time with as he denied his own sons. that's what really hurt the most. After being and still being a wonderful father.
H went 1 session counselor no longer practicing. Our pastor is young, counseled us twice, didn't help, searching 4 christian counselor.
none
I suppose not sure
no
no
no
H mentioned twice, told him he didn't have the guts, he's too selfish
No
O.W child due soon

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JandJ'sMom
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posted August 28, 2000 10:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JandJ'sMom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
F
Me 48 H49 OW 40
betrayed
15 yrs
8 mths
3 mths
7 mths 3 mths internet, 4 mths up close and personal
PA
2 1 1 night stand, 1 7 mths
no plan
together
divorced
internet
not mentioned. I several times have said "we're not going to make it." H says yes we will H for 2 1/2 mths after D-Day thought all was well. Really trying now, both of us.
None yet
Hi it's my first post


2 sons 12-14
both
Ow has 3 2 grown 1 12 yr old H met and spent time with as he denied his own sons. that's what really hurt the most. After being and still being a wonderful father.
H went 1 session counselor no longer practicing. Our pastor is young, counseled us twice, didn't help, searching 4 christian counselor.
none
I suppose not sure
no
no
no
H mentioned twice, told him he didn't have the guts, he's too selfish
No
O.W child due soon

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Trapped Mom
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posted August 30, 2000 06:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Trapped Mom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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TheNewMe
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posted September 15, 2000 05:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TheNewMe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1.Female
2.Your Age (29) / Spouse's Age (28 almost 29)
3.Betrayed
4.3 years married
5.3 years have known spouse before marriage
6.2 or 3 months since discovery"
7.not sure ## months total ength of the affair
8.Emotional Affair
9.1 Affair (approximate)
10.Currently in: Plan A / 2 months
11.Living together
12.OP is: 10 year live in relationship with 2 kids
13.OP is: co-worker
14.Has divorce been: filed by me for financial and support reasons in August
15.Following principles of: MB
16. 2 months on the Marriage Builders forums
e-mail is bilderj@yahoo.com

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justthewife
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posted September 16, 2000 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for justthewife     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Female

Both 30

Betrayed

8 years married

6 mo known spouse before marriage

discovery of A May 2000
discovery of 4 years of prostitutes, swing clubs, massages, exotic dancers Sept 14 2000

3 months total length of the affair

Both EA&PA

1 EA/PA, lots of one nighters

Currently in: Plan A

Living together

OP is: divorced(or about to)

OP is: met in bar

Has divorce been: discussed by both

Following principles of: MB

1 week on the Marriage Builders forums

2 children of the marriage 7 boy, 2 1/2 girl

In counseling? WS alone, and both together

On medication/anti-depressants? WS - trazodone BS something soon

Alcoholism involved? Maybe, WS is ACOA

Has there been STD as a result of affair? Yes

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Scared and lonely
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posted September 16, 2000 07:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scared and lonely     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Female
27...H 36
9 years married
knew for 4 years premarriage dated for 1
discovered affair end of August
not sure of length of affair
Emotional affair only so far (I think, not really sure)
first affair,I think
Currently on plan A
we are still together
OW is from internet
H has asked for divorce (I said NO!)
We have 2 boys ages 5 and 9
I started counseling 9-18
(H refuses to join me at current time)
I'm not on any meds, but H has been on anti-deppresents for approx. 9 months
I hope its only a mid-life crisis (is he old enough for that?)
No alchol or drugs
no STDs
No abuse (just neglect)
Says he has attempted suicide (don't know the specifics)
I've seriously considered ending it all, I would if it weren't for my boys
Definately not gay!
I do believe in unconditional love
(even for a spouse not just children)
I believe now that my eyes have been opened
that God can work all things together for
good and restore our marriage.

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Scared and lonely

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VAR
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posted September 22, 2000 08:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VAR     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is my roll call data
VAR

1. Male
2. I’m 33, W 31
3. Betrayed
4. 7
5. 3
6. Almost 2
7. About 6
8. Both EA&PA
9. 1
10. Plan A
11. Living Together
12. OP is divorced (wife had affair and left him two years ago)
13. Friend
14. Only mentioned in passing
15. MB (Wife not involved)
16. Two weeks

1. 3 children, 12 S, 6 D, 4 D
2. Currently we’re still together, so no custody issue
3. OM has two children, one is best friend w/ my 12 year old
4. I am in counseling, both with Steve Harley and elsewhere. My wife has been in counseling, but is currently angry with her counselor and has not scheduled a next appointment.
5. My wife is on Celexa
6. No
7. OM is a drinking buddy for her. That is part of where connection started.
8. No
9. No
10. She has voiced the idea that things would be simpler if she were gone, nothing more.
11. No
12. Any encouragement is greatly appreciated. Some days I feel strong and like I have a plan, other days I am bewildered and empty, and on those days I look to the forum here hoping for hope.

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SimplyMe
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posted September 22, 2000 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SimplyMe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here goes!

1. Female
2. My age 41/ H is 42
3. Betrayed
4. Married 15 years
5. Knew each other for 6 years before marriage.
6. 1 month since discovery
7. not sure about total length of A, but approx. 2 years.
8. Emotional Affair, at least as far as I know right now.
9. 1 A
10. Currently in Plan A without much luck!
11. Living together
12. OW is divorced, one child from former marriage.
13. OW was co-worker, both have left job
14. No discussion of divorce, H says it's the last thing he wants.
15. Trying to follow principles of MB, and God.
16. Began reading MB with 48 hours of discovery.

Personal

1. 3 children, ages are 9, and twins that are going to be 7 in two months. I homeschool our children.
2. We both have custody, we're still living together
3. The only other child is OW's from a former marriage
4. No counseling yet.
5. No med's
6. Probably mid-life crisis. OW is 10 years younger
7. There is alcoholism in H's family, and I've noticed that he is drinking more, but not out of control.
8. No STD that is known
9. No abuse
10. No suicide attempt
11. No lesbian/ gay issues
12. Just can't get him to stop calling her and go to counseling!

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Jennidy
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posted September 25, 2000 06:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jennidy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1) Female
2) I am 29 years old and he is 30 years old.
3) Betrayed
4) Married 7 years - Divorce final on Nov. 16, 1999
5) High School Sweethearts, dated for four years
6) 11 months since discovery (We were trying to get back together, but he continued to see OW after 1 month of breaking up with her to get back with me. He lied for 5 months by saying that there was no contact.)
7) The affair started the week before our divorce court date and ended when she got another boyfriend. Total time - 9.5 months
8) Both EA & PA
9) 1st affair
10) Currently in Recovery. I followed my Plan A for 6 months, didn't see an improvement, moved out. One week later, he proposed. Doing good.
11) Living separately.
12) OW is living with a new man.
13) OW is/was a friend. Although, she told me that she can't even be his friend anymore. She got tired of him going back and forth between us.
14) Divorced in November 1999
15) I have read several books. We did the emotional needs questionaire a few days before the discovery. We haven't done the LB questionaire yet. I've read most of the articles and some of them to him.
16) 11 months on MB forums

Personal
1) No children
2) We went to counseling a few times together and I continued by myself for awhile. Currently, neither of us is in counseling and he is not interested in going.
3) St. John's Wort for first two months after D-day
4) Too young for a mid-life crisis. Could he be having an almost-30 crisis?
5) No alcoholism, but weed is a problem
6) I got tested and I am clean.
7) When we were married, there was a small degree of domestic violence. Hasn't been a problem between us since 1998.
8) No suicide attempts
9) No lesbian/gay issues

We are currently engaged and planning to get remarried within the next year.
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Jennidy

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KAW
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posted September 27, 2000 04:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KAW     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Female

Your Age-24 and Spouse's Age-33

Betrayed/
3 years married

4 years have known spouse before marriage

13 months since "discovery"/Pre-discovery

4? months total length of the affair

Both EA&PA

1 of Affairs (approximate)

Currently in: Plan A

Living together

married (3 kids)

OW IS a friend (former lover - since before me many years before me)

Has divorce been: discussed/requested(by Husband)

Following principles of: MB
3 months on the Marriage Builders forums

Very personal… Very optional…
(no need to respond to these unless you think you want to/can help someone)


2 step children daughters 7 and 12

Who has physical custody? their mothers (not us)

In counseling? with Harley's/with Other…and…Alone/with Spouse- I am in counseling with Jennifer Just started a couple weeks ago

On medication/anti-depressants?… What kind? No medication

Mid-Life Crisis involved????
Alcoholism involved? H and I met at AA neither of us has gone back to drinking yet THANK GOD

Has there been STD as a result of affair?no

Abuse? emotional YES

Suicide attempted? H seems to be close to it but not yet

Lesbian/Gay issues?no

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FeelingStupid
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posted October 03, 2000 09:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FeelingStupid     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am a 31 year old female. My husband is 38.

Betrayed with no smoking gun or confession.

Married for 4 years, together for 6 .

3 weeks since discovery of 1 affair, physical only I believe.

Currently in no plan.

Living together.

OP is my best friend of 9 years who is currently going through a divorce. She was his co-worker at the time.

My H almost constantly brings up divorce.

Not currently following any principles.

First day on Marriage Builders.

We have two children together, boy 3yrs and girl 7mo.s living w/both of us. Two children from <<<< relationships, last yr we lost costody of both to the other parent, my daughter age 13yrs and his son age 7yrs.

Neither of us are in counseling or on anti-depressants.

Possible mild alcoholism and mid-life crisis.
Possible STD's (to afraid to find out).

Much mental abuse, escalate to physical after discovery.

I am a five year survivor of suicide thanks to my mother's successful attempt.

No gay/lesbian issues I'm aware of.
Then again, there seems to be a lot that I'm not aware of these days.

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Thronx
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posted October 03, 2000 01:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thronx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1. Female/Male: Male
2. Your Age and Spouse's Age: 44, 40
3. Betrayed
4. 19 years married this coming 11/1
5. 1.5 years have known spouse before marriage
6. 3.5 weeks since "discovery"
7. 7-9 months total length of the affair?
8. Certainly PA, at first a bit EA (she looking for love lost between us)
9. 1 known Affair
10. Currently in: Recovery / weekly therapy, Love Busters principles / anything else that'll do good
11. Living together
12. OP is: married
13. OP is: Other - acquaintance from beach
14. Has divorce been: discussed
15. Following principles of: MB/Other/12 steps/professional help
16. -1 month on the Marriage Builders forums
17.
1. 2 children of the marriage 14, 12
2. Who has physical custody? us
3. Are there Other Children(Ocs) No
4. In counseling? with Spouse
5. On medication/anti-depressants? Both of us, Prozac/Klonopin, both dysthymic
6. Mid-Life Crisis involved? Yes
7. Alcoholism involved? No
8. Has there been STD as a result of affair? No
9. Abuse? Only by me upon discovery, not physical
10. Suicide attempted? No, casually considered
11. Lesbian/Gay issues? No

Discovered email from Other questioning why did W want to end the relationship? (W printed it out-got stuck in printer queue-go figure). Emergency therapy (we each in our own), first week torment. Still roller-coaster, but better, not the overwhelming nausea & dizziness. She and I love each other very much, working hard to heal and give each other emotional needs. First time in our marriage I've ever had certain em needs met. Feels very good to. We are hopeful. Even had lovemaking (best I remember) immersed. Like a honeymoon. What scares me is how to heal and trust and provide em needs in the long term, God willing.


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unseen2
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posted October 04, 2000 05:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for unseen2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi all,

1. Male

2. 31, W 25

3. Betrayed

4. 3yrs

5. 2yrs

6. 18 Mon

7. 4 Mon PA

8. PA/EA/IA

9. 2 PA, ? EA, ? IA

10. Recovery

11. Living together

12. OP were single

13. 1 Co-worker, 1 customer

14. Divorce was contemplated, papers were picked up but never signed.

15. Principles as a guideline, but we've mostly freelanced it.

16. myself 17 Mon, W 12 Mon?


Part II

1. 1 - 2 month old boy

2. Joint (we're together)

3. Some initial worry but no

4. Yes, joint and W individual

5. Was on Effexor when PA's occured stopped 9 mon ago.

6. No

7. No

8. W tested, all clear

9. No

10. No

11. No

12. Still some issues, but things are looking good


Jason

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"Thinking is easy, action is difficult; to act in accordance with one's thoughts is the most difficult thing in the world."
- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

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Lynton
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posted October 07, 2000 05:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lynton     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi,
This is my first posting, but I
have been an avid reader of the site for
nearly a year. Here go's......
I am male, 46
Wife is 30
Wife is WS,(hate the term betrayer)
Discovery date November 1999
Wife came to me in person and told
me that she'd had an affair, and
that she was pregnant with OM's
child (when she discovered she was
pregnant, I was the first person
she told.) She is definitly not
the typical WS
OM is a handsom, charming, multi-
talented profesional (damn!!)
I am 6'4" , 175 lbs., hazel eyes
Irish Catholic, light brown hair
(whats left of it)
wife is 5'4" , blonde, hazel eyes
athletic and beautiful!
I am a certified registered nurse
anesthetist,(I get paid to pass
gas!)
Wife is a stay at home mom (she has
the tough job)
I have two children by a previous
marriage, Michael,18, and Erin, 16
This is my wifes' first marriage.
We have a beautiful daughter,
Linzi, 7, and the newest member is
a precious little girl, Lexi.

I have read the entire site,
atempting to educate myself to
understand what went wrong! What
I have learned is that I went
wrong! I basically pushed my wife
into the arms of another man. My
wife would deny this, maintaining
that it was all her doing.
I read the forum often, hoping to
gain some insght, hoping to glean
some wisdom from those who have
been there. I have noticed some
similarities in others stories,
but I have also noticed many
differences, particularly in my
wifes' behavior. For example,
from the day she told me of the
affair and pregnancy, she has
always said that she loved me.
She also says that she loves the
OM, otherwise this would never have
happened. Knowing her as well as
I do, I know this is true. In spite
of what has happened, she took her
wedding vows very seriously. I know
that she was in a state of despair,
terible sadness and lonliness,
otherwise this would never have
happened.

We are currently living together,
and we are both struggling with
trying to make our marriage work
I'm not sure what plan we're
working, I'm just trying to show
her that I love her, and that I
will never be the cause of her
unhappiness again.
Her decision is much more
complicated. She is trying to think
of the welfare of everyone
involved, especially the children.
Add that to the gut-wrenching
emotional turmoil she is in, I
think she has a near impossible
task. Even so, she is determined to
do what is right.
I love her with all my heart, and
I pray that we will not just
survive this, but that our marriage
will be stronger an happier than
ever!


The best to all of you,

Lynton





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Daniel
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posted October 07, 2000 11:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Daniel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1.Male
2.40 in Dec./40 in Nov.
3.wife felt unloved by me, moved in with seperated male "friend" still not sure what's up with that.
4.Married 12.5 years
5.2 years
6.3.5 years
7.not sure if there is one, has said living there is finacial reason.
8.Emotional and unknown
9.0
10.Trying to get plan A started, but also avoid LB, 2 months
11.Living separate, 2.50 months
12.OP separated
13. A "friend" used to live next door,play cards etc.
14.filed for no fault divorce, 3 months ago.
15.MB as I find out about it.
16.> 1 month
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1.daughter dob 10/26/88
Son dob 10/16/90
2.Joint custody
3.OM has daughter 11
4.couseling by self with other.
5.on nerontin 2 weeks not helping, off it now.
6.?
7.No
8.No
9.No
10.No
11.No
12.I didn't meet her conversation needs and was LB. I also didn't protect her from being hurt by some of my family. I see her moving out to see if I try to get her back, and to make me grow up and make me miss her

Just adding. 5'10" blue eyes, ash blonde hair
weighed 224 in april/2000 lost 20 lbs for health reasons. wife asked to separate, lost 30 more. was down to 173 lbs and worked to put weight back on,looked too thin. now 185

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