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Alberta
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posted January 20, 2001 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alberta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1. Female
2. I'm 41, spouse is 36
3. Betrayed
4. married 10 years
5. knew spouse 1 year prior
6. 8 months since discovery
7. affair constituted 2 meetings over 3 months
8. started as EA online for a few months, then PA
9. 1 affair
10. Recovery - 8 months. Plan A. Have done some counselling
11. Living together
12. OW has been widowed for 2 years, with 2 small children
13. met OW on internet
14. Divorce discussed once - in drunken stupor! (by me )
15. MB principles to a certain extent - need to focus more
16 on forum since July 2000

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bangarra
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posted January 21, 2001 03:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bangarra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi,

I'm a 38 year old woman, my H is 37. We've been together since 5/90. H was my boss, we knew each other approximately 3 weeks and he moved in with me and my 3 year old daughter from a previous marriage.

We had a daughter 6/91 and were married 7/92. A few moves, job changes etc were going on which added additiional stress, we finally ended up with jobs in different cities for 11 months in 93/94. I left my job to go back to my family and we bought a house 4/95. H adopted my daughter in 95, too.

H's dad died 2/98 and he filed for divorce in 3/98. We went to 3 counseling sessions and supposedly the divorce was dropped. I found out when he decided to bring it up again in 7/00 that it was open in the courts all this time.

H moved out to a room 8/00, we attempted collaborative divorce proceedings but it wasn't working out for me. I do not want a divorce, feel anything wrong could have been fixed if we both worked at it, but H feels it would be a disservice to himself to attempt to try and reconcile. Currently waiting for litigation attorney to start doing something.

I have realized in the past few months that the children and I were locked into an emotional and verbally abusive relationship with H. I am currently on Paxil (anti-depressant)to help control the rollercoaster of emotions, and the kids and I are in counseling learning to deal with the negatives of our past relationship.

I feel H has had several EA (at least)throughout the duration of our marriage, and he admits to being selfish and putting himself before the kids and myself. He claims that we could never reconcile because he can't forgive me for finding an outlet (showing dogs & computer)when my needs weren't met. Also that "pandora's box" was opened and there will never be any going back.

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gwoodle
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posted January 25, 2001 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gwoodle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1. Female
2. I am 54/H is 56
3. I am the betrayed
4. We have been married 37 yrs. as of 12/31/2000
5. Dated for 6 months before marriage
6. H left me the day after Mothers Day 1999, found out about OW two days later.
7. Total month's of Affair? Three months before D-day, almost 5 months after D-day.
8. It was a PA that turned into a PA/EA
9. This one only
10. We have been in recovery since H came back Oct. 1999
11. We are living together
12. OW is 30 yrs. old, is single and has 3 children
13. OW worked for my H (did work in the past-tence).
14. No, we both want our marriage to work.
15. We are both following Dr. Harley's principles (his needs/her needs)
16. I found this site after H left me for OW, I lurked for awhile could
not stay (was to painful) then came back about 4 months ago.
17. We have 3 girls ( 36, 35, and 30 ) all out on their own, doing quite well I might add.
We also have a 17 yr. old son at home.
18. No other children.
19. We are not in counseling, I went myself, the entire time my H was gone,
and then we went together for about a month.
20. No medication's
21. Husband was definitely going through Mid-Life crisis
(He hated his job, that he had been at for 37 yrs., He was having male potencies problems,
I had gained 35 lbs. in the last couple of years and didn't want him to see me naked etc. etc. etc.
22. H is alcoholic
23. Hope not, being tested every six months.
24. No abuse
25. I tried to kill myself about one month after H came back. Couldn't stand the pain of it all.
26. No
27. Just want to add, its a long tough struggle, but I think we are going to make it.


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frootloops
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posted February 02, 2001 02:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for frootloops     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Female
I'm 41, my spouse is 42
Im the betrayed spouse
21 years married

4 years have known spouse before marriage - met in high school

1 month since "discovery"
3-4 months total length of the affair
Both EA&PA
# of Affairs -1 (so he says)

Currently in: Plan A
Living together
OP is: married
OP is: co-worker
Has divorce been: discussed/requested- NO
Following principles of: MB

months on the Marriage Builders forums - just started

2 children of the marriage, g age 17, b age 13
Who has physical custody - we both do, we are still living together
Are there Other Children(OCs) No
In counseling? Yes with Other…and…with Spouse

On medication/anti-depressants? Yes… What kind? Prozac 40 mg a day and still crying

Mid-Life Crisis involved? - I believe so
Alcoholism involved - No
Has there been STD as a result of affair? - Don't know yet, awaiting results of tests
Abuse - No
Suicide attempted - Only thought about
Lesbian/Gay issues - No

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SN
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posted February 08, 2001 06:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SN     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's the facts:

-Male
-Age 35 Wife 32
-Betrayed
-4 1/2 years married
-Knew/dated W 6 years before marriage
-2+ months since Discovery 11/27/00
-4+ months at least, don't know when affair really started (found evidence as far back as 10/8/00
-Probably both EA & PA (Saw wife "making out" with OM in public place)
-1 affair that I know about
-Currently No plan/Plan B
-Living separate for 3 months. Wife left 2 weeks before discovery 11/13/00. She is supposedly getting apartment, most likely w/OM.
-Don't know if OM is married/single/divorced.
-OM is a co-worker
-Wife contacted attorney, believe she has filed. I haven't recieved "papers" yet.
-Have been following "Divorce Busting" and starting "MB" principles. Hopefully not too late.
-Just started posting Feb 2001

-No children. We were working on it just before.
-Custody: I have the dog, she took the cat
-Unknown if OC involved, if so they would be OM's
-Went to Marriage Counseling about 8 times, only twice jointly. Last time was right after NY Day.
-No medication for me, W may be. She seems really "out of it".
-Very possible W is in MLC. Wanted kids, hadn't happened yet, friend recently died 9/30/00, recent birthday for W. Think OM is 5+ years younger.
-Neither of us really drink. I still don't, maybe W started?
-No STD, W???
-No abuse
-Suicide, crossed my mind, not seriously though.


Lost 35lbs in just 3-4 weeks and it's stayed off. Even without Richard Simmons or Jenny Craig.

Trying for the opportunity to work things out with wife. She's not receptive at this time. Hoping and praying that she will realize that divorce won't solve our problems, just add to them. Still very much in love with her!

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Zebco
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posted February 09, 2001 07:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Zebco     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Female/Male

I can't wait to read all these posts.

I'm Male, 32 Wife is 27

Betrayed 6-30?-99

Married 8+ yrs

I knew my wife for a year b4 marriage

7-8 months since the discovery

Affair lasted about a week--at least that's what I'm told. I have some suspicion to believe it was MUCH longer

Physical Affair , possibly emotional--I'm scared to know too many details

1...I hope

Currently in Recovery for 6 months

Living together 6 months OP is Gone

OP is: common law

OP is: co-worker

Wife filed divorce about a week before? the affair supposedly began--dropped soon after

Following some close counselling/supervision from Church

1 week on the Marriage Builders forums


2 kids 1 girl 7, 1 boy 4.

Both kids live at home w/ us

No OC/Pregnancy from affair

In counseling w Church leadership w/ my wife

I was on Effexor b4 the affair--at W's request. None now.

Mid-Life Crisis involved? NO

Alcoholism involved? No

Has there been STD as a result of affair? No...I don't think

Abuse? No

Suicide attempted? No.

Lesbian/Gay issues? No

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Laylla
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posted February 17, 2001 01:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Laylla     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm the wife

age 40, H is 46

No affairs in our marriage, although this is marriage # 2 for both of us and we were each other's affair in marriages #1

Been married almost 10 years, knew each other two years before that

2 kids each from previous marriage, 3 of the 4 live with us (all teenagers)

Trying to follow the MB principles, mixed success

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oldman
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posted February 17, 2001 10:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for oldman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here I am,

Male
age 27/W 27
Betrayed
9 years married
known for 12 years...met in high school
3 months since I found out
2 or three months was how long my W wasn't with me emotionally
As far as I know... all are Emotional Affairs on internet but plans were made to meet
Working on plan A but having rough time with the forgiveness thing
We still live together (WOW) I have been told through our whole life together that if I ever did this sort of thing.. There would be no second chances!!
She talks about leaving But not divorce..it hasn't been mentioned

We have two (almost) perfect kids..4yr old girl, 7yr old boy. I say almost only because they can't walk on water....YET lol.

No alcohol abuse ever neither one of us can stand it.. Has been alot of MaryJ though. Probably the only thing that kept me sane through the discovery.

Not helpless enough to abandon my children with suicide.. have had thoughts though..

My mistake was to give too much attention to my business (almost like another child to me), and not enough to the woman I thought was behind me through sickness/health..richer/poorer..better/worse.

Ivan..... OLDMAN

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Discovery2000
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posted February 18, 2001 07:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Discovery2000     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Email/ don't know why it doesn't come up on the profile: discovery2000_mb@hotmail.com

Finally the courage to put it in black and white.

I am Female 46,betrayed. H is a reluctant 49

married 30 yrs

Dated 2yrs. Known each other since early childhood.

7+mos since D-Day (found them together on the eve of our 30th anniversary. OUCH that really hurt)

P/A 10 mos at the time of discovery. 16mos total,when he ended it for the 3rd time in Dec/00.
A BIG PS here..."H" told me that they had sex on a several occasions over a period of a few years in the mid 80's. Says it was nothing emotional on his part...just drunken sex...(he is sober now 10yrs. to his credit he did it on his own) BUT.. Am I suppose to feel any less betrayed? Let's see, that means the Affair went on for 15yrs. on and off before I found out mmmmm...

Living seperate since Oct. I moved out, not because of "A" but more about "lies".

OP is my SIL/ My brother died 2 yrs ago of cancer.

Divorce has been discussed. "H" says he wants to work it out. That is my hope also. But he refuses counseling. Still calls OW on occasion.

No plan currently. Tried plan A from July to Oct, switched to revised plan B in Oct.
2 weeks before my cancer surgery.

Trying to meet some of each others needs, I will not move back until there is a plan, wich includes "NO" contact of any sort, and at the very least counseling is in th plan.

5 grown children. 4 of which do not speak to their father since he told them about the "A". They feel he held them to a very high, "almost impossible" standard and yet he himself was not willing to live up to his own standard.

He is an INTJ I am an ESFP.

No anti-depressants for either of us currently (I was on prozac then Zoloft 5 yrs before D-Day and felt it kept me in a mental fog)

I have been tested for STD's. Neg. so far.

There! That's about it. Thanks friends!

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A blessed Samantha
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posted February 24, 2001 02:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for A blessed Samantha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NSR/Jim

I can't believe I missed posting on this thread. Just goes to show how one can get so busy with life and this recovery stuff.

So here goes...

Basic set of questions.

1. Female

2. I'm 48 Husband is 43.

3. Betrayed

4. We've been married 17, 15 at the time of discovery.

5. We had known of one another for about 6 months before we got together. That lasted about 1 1/2 years before we married.

6. It has been 2 years almost to the day since discovery. February 21, 1999.

7. This one is a toughy as husband isn't quite sure. The secret friendship was possibly 4 or 5 years long. The affair was nearly 2 years long, at least where they did things together unbeknownst to me, outside of work. The physical affair was a year to a year and half.

8. Emotional and physical. She was the love of his life. (Belch, at least I can now say was!)

9. This was his only affair. I have never had one.

10. Currently in recovery. I have to say we're doing really well too.

11. He never moved or and neither did I, so we lived each and every day in the same domicile through this mess.

12. OW is single, but when the secret friendship first started she was married, then separated in her mind, but they were living in the same house. Eventually she divorced and either before that divorce or after she got a boyfriend. (Now my time lines may be a bit askew, as hubby has that I can't remember stuff.) During boyfriend got heavy with husband and gave her boyfriend up without being asked for my husband. (There I think I got that right?)

13. OW was co-worker and they were acquaintance when they were young teens.

14. Divorce was discussed after discovery. Only threatened by him before. Both of us decided it was not an option for us without a sincere try at this marriage.

15. I followed MB principles right away, although didn't find the site for a month or so. He follows them pretty much, without knowing exactly what they are, and he sure wouldn't admit they are MB principles.

16. I have been registered since May of 1999. Started lurking sometime in March (?)of that year.

Very personal

(I have got to laugh at that one. I have spouted more intimate personal stuff here; this is going to be a breeze.)

1. One child together, girl from this marriage, age at discovery 13, now she is 15. Two for me from first marriage (This is his only marriage, and my second.) Boy 23 (guess he is really a man now huh?) and Girl 19, my troubled child. She is schizophrenic and bi-polar. I also have a granddaughter she is almost 3. Thanks to my son.

2. We both have physical custody of 15 years old we are still married. PTL My son is married, and my 19-year-old daughter lives with her father these days.

3. No children by the affair thank God.

4. No counseling, husband refused. Doesn't like psychobabble. I was already in counseling at the time of discovery. I quit at about four or five months into it. Financial burden and youngest daughter needed to continue with counseling. I get daily counseling here though!

5. I was not on anti-depressants right then at discovery, but had been in the past. I did this one cold turkey, without any. I just didn't want to go backwards. For me it would have been.

6. I do believe mid-life crisis was one but many factors in the equation.

7. Always wondered about my husband being an alcoholic? During his affair, or at least near the end of it, he probably was cleaner than he had ever been. My theory, he is a substance abuser who subconsciously tries to escape life. The OW and his feelings were a high, so he didn't need the substances as much. Happy to report, he is an occasional user now, and things are going well. His drinking and what not in our past had caused a whole lot of problems though.

8. No STD's and again PTL! I did go get tested though, he refused. When I asked him why he had unprotected sex with her, he said he trusted her. Now all of us know that any one who has been sexual active with more than one partner in their lives, could have a STD, you don't have to be a "bad" or "untrustworthy" person to get one.

9. We had become very emotionally abusive, especially with words. I had bordered on being physically abusive.

10. No suicide attempted, but I know we both thought about it. I however thought of it more than him most likely.

11. No lesbian or gay issues.


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God bless you and all of us. We are all going to make it, all of us! With God on our side we can't lose! What God has joined together let no man put asunder.

Samantha

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brokenhearted99
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posted February 25, 2001 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for brokenhearted99     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1. Male
2. Your Age 52
Spouse's Age 50
3. Betrayed
4. 30 years married
5. 3 years have known spouse before marriage
6.almost 4 months since "discovery
7. 180 months (15 years) total length of the affair
8. Emotional Affair/ Physical Affair / Both
9. 1 of Affairs (approximate)
10. Currently in: Recovery /Something else AND for how # months
11. Living together
12.OP is:divorced
13.OP is: friend (ex boyfriend)
14. Has divorce been: discussed
15. Following principles of: MB
16.1 months on the Marriage Builders forums

Personal…

1.1 daughter (26)
2. N/A
3. N/A
4. In counseling? with Other, Alone and with Spouse
5. On medication/anti-depressants yes… What kind?
6. Mid-Life Crisis involved?
7. Alcoholism involved? no.
8. Has there been STD as a result of affair? No.
9. Abuse? no.
10. Suicide attempted? The cheater (wife) has threatened to if we can't work it out.
11. Lesbian/Gay issues? NO!
12. Anything Else…She has learned the OM was having sexual affairs with two other woman at the same time as her and is feeling very used and angry, feels that he was just using her. As a result, says she hates him and will never see or talk to him again. She is very remorseful and is doing everything she can to be nice and loving to me, says she will devote the rest of her life to making it up to me. I don't know how she can replace the 15 years of affection she stole from me to give to him. Also don't know how to forget so I can be affectionate to her.

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Devastated1
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posted February 26, 2001 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Devastated1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1. Female
2. I’m 29, H is 27
3. Betrayed
4. 18 months married
5. I’ve known my H for 12 years and we dated
for 10.5 years before marriage
6. 4 months since he told me
7. 11 months - total length of the affair and still counting… He says he’s “In Love” with her.
8. Both EA & PA
9. This is the only affair he’s admitted too but of course there could be more, I just don’t know what to believe anymore
10. I’m currently in Plan B sorta, he still calls & emails me, he doesn’t want to lose me as a friend
11. Living separate for 3 of months and supposedly without the OW
12. OW is single, co-worker, 21 years old, etc..
13. Divorce has been discussed but H wants the “Door left Open”
14. 4 months on the MB forums, this is my first post

Thanks!

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porkandbeans
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posted February 27, 2001 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for porkandbeans     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok here I go:
1. male
2. me 33 she 33
3. she betrayed me
4. 6.5 years
5. 2 years
6. 6 months
7. who knows, emotional at least for 4 years, physical i do not know.
8. emotional and physical
9. once, according to her, but I have difficulty believing that.
10. currently in a state of confusion, frustration, and sadness.
11. living together, no seperation.
12. he is single
13. he is a co-worker, they share an office space together, and she will not move.
14. divorce has not been discussed in depth, but threatened by her a few times.
15. none, yet.
16. since 08/00 when i found out about the affair.
17. 1 child, 3 yrs old.

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RobertaLea
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posted February 28, 2001 07:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RobertaLea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Female
26 yrs old and H is 27 yrs old
Betrayed
7 years married

1 year have known spouse before marriage

4 years since discovery

1 month total length of the affair

Physical Affair

1 Affair
Currently in: No Plan
Living together
OP is: married
OP was: a friend
Following principles of: None yet

1 month on the Marriage Builders forums

2 children of the marriage aged 1 and 5

Are there Other Children(OCs) yes, one

No counseling, H says we cant afford it

No medication, only aspirin in mass quantities

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trueblue
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posted March 02, 2001 07:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for trueblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Roll call

Ok, I'm not too sure how these things work but I'm trying to post my profile - so here it is.

Female
I'm 35, H 39
BS
1.5 years married
dated for 1 year, lived together 2 years before marriage
discovery mid Jan 2001
A lasted one month basically for month of Oct00
PA
currently in recovery (I think)
living together
OP is divorced
H found her by posting an ad on internet for discreet daytime encounters
divorce discussed mostly by him responding to feelings of hurt and my not wanting to just "get on" with our marriage like nothing happened
H first wife deceased with 13 year old boy, I have 8 year old girl from divorce and father not active
I am in individual counselling and we are in marriage counselling
no meds
possible mid life crisis
no alcohol, drugs
possible STD (something is going on down there inspite of negative testing)
H felt suicidal for a few days when the effects of his actions "hit him"

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