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adviceplease
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posted April 18, 2001 10:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for adviceplease     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Female/Male: Female

Your Age and Spouse's Age: I'm 30; H is 30

Betrayed/Betrayer(Wayward)/OP (or any combination): I'm the betrayed

## years married: 3

## years have known spouse before marriage: 7
## months since "discovery": I found out March 13, 2001 - 4 weeks ago

## months total length of the - Not sure.... I think 3 months

Emotional Affair/ Physical Affair / Both: Both

## of Affairs (approximate): 1when we were engagaed, we separated, engaged again and married and now this so 2

Currently in: Plan A / Plan B / No Plan / Recovery /Something else AND for how # months: WHO KNOWS... been in therapy since I found out March 13th and he started the next week

Living together / Living separate(# of months, w/ or w/out OP) / Other arrangements: LIVING TOGETHER.

OP is: married/divorced(or about to)/separated/single: No idea

OP is: co-worker/a friend/a relative/from Internet/Other: someone he met at a bar

Has divorce been: discussed/requested(by whom)/filed(by whom)/completed(how long ago): hasn't been discussed

Following principles of: MB/Divorce Busters/Other/None yet: just reading and trying to get through each day

## months on the Marriage Builders forums: 1st month

## children of the marriage (ages): 0 - we were going to start trying in May but not now

Who has physical custody? N/A

Are there Other Children(OCs) involved (pregancy wrt to wayward)? Not that I know of

In counseling? with Harley's/with Other?and?Alone/with Spouse: WE ARE BOTH GOING TO SAME COUNSELOR INDIVIDUALLY EACH WEEK.

On medication/anti-depressants?? What kind?: I need some but don't know how to get it

Mid-Life Crisis involved?: Who knows.... he turned 30 last week and said this was affecting him

Alcoholism involved? No

Has there been STD as a result of affair? Not that I know of but I haven't slept with him since this happened

Abuse? No

Suicide attempted? No

Lesbian/Gay issues? NO.

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adviceplease
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posted April 18, 2001 10:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for adviceplease     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Female
I am 30 and my H is 30
I am the Betrayed
## years married: 3
## years have known spouse before marriage: 7
## months since "discovery"/Pre-discovery: I discovered this 1 month ago on March 13th
## months total length of the affair: 3 as far as I know
Both EA and PA
## of Affairs (approximate): 2 - one when we were engaged the first time and now this
No plan yet - we are in therapy and I am reading lots of books
Living together - but this whole time he has been out of town on a project. He comes home this weekend and now I will be more worried b/c she is here
OP is: I think single
OP is: someone he met at a bar
Has divorce been: discussed but not seriously
Following principles of: ??????
# children of the marriage None - we going to start this summer
Who has physical custody? NA
Are there Other Children(OCs) involved (pregancy wrt to wayward)? Not that I know of
In counseling? Yes - we both go once a week
On medication/anti-depressants?I wish
Mid-Life Crisis involved? He had a hard time turning 30
Alcoholism involved? No
Has there been STD as a result of affair? I haven't slept with him but not that I know of
Abuse? No
Suicide attempted? No
Lesbian/Gay issues? No
Anything Else?it's completely up to you? PLEASE HELP

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adviceplease
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posted April 18, 2001 10:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for adviceplease     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Female
I am 30 and my H is 30
I am the Betrayed
## years married: 3
## years have known spouse before marriage: 7
## months since "discovery"/Pre-discovery: I discovered this 1 month ago on March 13th
## months total length of the affair: 3 as far as I know
Both EA and PA
## of Affairs (approximate): 2 - one when we were engaged the first time and now this
No plan yet - we are in therapy and I am reading lots of books
Living together - but this whole time he has been out of town on a project. He comes home this weekend and now I will be more worried b/c she is here
OP is: I think single
OP is: someone he met at a bar
Has divorce been: discussed but not seriously
Following principles of: ??????
# children of the marriage None - we going to start this summer
Who has physical custody? NA
Are there Other Children(OCs) involved (pregancy wrt to wayward)? Not that I know of
In counseling? Yes - we both go once a week
On medication/anti-depressants?I wish
Mid-Life Crisis involved? He had a hard time turning 30
Alcoholism involved? No
Has there been STD as a result of affair? I haven't slept with him but not that I know of
Abuse? No
Suicide attempted? No
Lesbian/Gay issues? No
Anything Else?it's completely up to you? PLEASE HELP

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OneDay
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posted April 18, 2001 11:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for OneDay     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1. Female
2. 35; H is 34
3. BS
4. 9.5 years married
5. knew spouse 1.5 years before married
6. now 7.5 months since discovery
7. 3 months total length of the A
8. both EA & PA
9. 1 A
10. in recovery since late Sept. 2000
11. living together
12. OW is single
13. OW is friend of H, acquaintance of mine
14. divorce has been discussed by both of us; no one has filed
15. I am following MB principles and trying to get H to follow them also
16. 3 months on MB forums (2 lurking and 1 posting)

Very personal
1. 2 children (1 and 4 years old)
2. both
3. No OC
4. MC for 3 months; now starting IC
5. both on anti-deps
6. MLC for H
lots of other info in posts

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InShockinCali
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posted May 15, 2001 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for InShockinCali     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am 37 and my H is 40
I am the Betrayed
## years married: 11 1/2
## years have known spouse before marriage: 3
## months since "discovery"/Pre-discovery: I discovered this 3 weeks ago, April 25, 2001 Had inklings of it as early as February.
## months total length of the affair: 3 as far as I know,
Both EA and PA
## of Affairs (approximate): 1st, as far as I know.
I am attempting a plan A and start counseling May 22
Living together
OP is: M (#4) Thinks she's found #5, though she's still with her H
OP is: a former coworker of mine who now works with him
Has divorce been: discussed but not seriously. He keeps emphasizing he just wants to separate.
Following principles of: I am following MB. I pray for the day he will read the stuff as well.


Very personal... very optional

# children of the marriage: 3 boys
Who has physical custody? we both do.
Are there Other Children(OCs) involved (pregancy wrt to wayward)? God, I hope not!
In counseling? Start May 22
On medication/anti-depressants? No
Mid-Life Crisis involved? I really think so. He keeps talking about all that he's not able to do. That he'd be better for everyone independent.
Alcoholism involved? No
Has there been STD as a result of affair? God, I pray not!Abuse? No
Suicide attempted? No
Lesbian/Gay issues? No
Anything Else?it's completely up to you?

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Phyreblade
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posted May 19, 2001 01:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Phyreblade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's me:

1. I am female.
2. I'm 26 and hubby is 23. (both birthdays coming up)
3. I am the betrayed spouse.
4. We've been married 2 years now.
5. Hah...Brief courtship of one month.
6. It's been one month since I discovered the affair but I suspected an affair during the four months prior to D-day.
7. Gee...the affair lasted at least five months but possibly more.
8. The affair was both an emotional and a physical affair.
9. This is my husband's only affair, but he's cheated on most GF's in the past.
10. Was in Plan A, moved to Plan B, and returning again to Plan A now that hubby is willing to negotiate.
11. Seperated at present for almost three weeks but preparing for return to living together.
12. OP is married, for convenience, and planning divorce.
13. OP is hubby's ex-GF.
14. Divorce was initially requested by hubby, who's now changed his mind.
15. Following principles of MB right now.
16. Just recently discovered the forums.

Personal:

1. We have one child (aged 22 months) and I'm pregnant (7 mo.) with our second.
2. Agreed I maintain physical custody.
3. One possible OC from relationship prior to our marriage but husband admits OP was pregnant but miscarried.
4. Counseling planned but not yet begun since we are still presently seperated.
5. No medication.
6. No mid-life crisis.
7. No alcoholism.
8. Just took the tests...
9. No abuse.
10. No suicide attempted.
11. No lesbian/gay issues

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ScaredInNY
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posted May 25, 2001 10:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScaredInNY     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Female
Age 32 and Spouse Age 33
Betrayed
8 + years married
1 1/2 years knew spouse before marriage (lived together majority of a year)
2nd marriage for both
3 months since "discovery"
just over a year total length of the affair
latest/ worst was Emotional Affair w/ short Physical Affair
I would count 3 EA's total- husband disagrees on this though
Currently in: Plan A /Recovery for 2 weeks- 3 months depending on what point you start counting from
Living together 3 months since we split for almost 3 weeks, w/out OP involved anymore
OP is: divorced (long ago)
OP is: a groupie (band)
Has divorce been: discussed, yes, but thankfully past tense
Following principles of: MB to the best of my ability H slowly coming around to trying learn about them too.
I think have been 2 months on the Marriage Builders forums now.
2 children of the marriage (ages 9 & 8)
Are there Other Children(OCs) involved (pregancy wrt to wayward)- NO, thank GOD for small favors like the vasectomy!
In counseling? Yes, with local marriage counselor (w/spouse)
On medication/anti-depressants?… Yes, Prozac
Mid-Life Crisis involved? no
Alcoholism involved? no
Has there been STD as a result of affair? no- got checked just incase though- did have a bacterial infection
Abuse? verbal/ emotional - yes
Suicide attempted? no
Lesbian/Gay issues? no- (another small favor from God)
Anything Else…I am fortunate to have a trully changed and repentant man. First time in our marriage I really feel we are working towards a healthy marriage given time on current course. I don't know how I would have gotten through this without the support of the others on this forum who also have been through it. It really helps to know I am not alone, and everything I have been going through is almost as common as rain. It's easy to feel alone, hopeless, and crazy! Thanks to everyone!!

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GeezLouise
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posted May 25, 2001 10:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeezLouise     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh.......what the hell......

Female
I'm 44 and hubby is 45
Betrayed beyond a shadow of a doubt....grrrrrrr
Married 24+ years
Were dating 3+ years prior to marriage
PD was five years ago and actual D was two week ago....ACK!
Affair lasted four years or more
Emotional and Physical as well as BRAINWASHING affair
One (as long as you don't include the threesome he had with
OW and some other "ho")
Plan A
Living separate (he's incarcerated in another state)
OP is divorced (2X)
OP is co-addict
Divorce is not wanted by either spouse
MB....beginners
I'm a newbie to MB.....he has no access to Internet
Two teenage children/ one girl/ one boy
Children living with me, their mother
OC --- GOD FORBID
No counseling......but agreed to by both spouses
Both on antidepressants
Perhaps the hubby had a mid-life crisis
No
Not that I'm aware of......he was tested for AIDS prior
to incarceration with negative results
Emotional abuse on H's part
Yes...H has contemplated this exit
No.......H had two women including the OW at one time

Never did I think that I'd be posting such information for the public's consumption. Little did I know that I'd need such cleansing........

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zorweb
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posted May 25, 2001 10:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for zorweb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Female

My age (51), Spouse's Age (46)

Betrayed

Married 9 months

Knew spouse 2 years before marriage

Discovery was March 22, 2001

Husband has 10 affairs that I know of with women he met on the internet over the 2 1/2 years we were engaged and then married. The affairs lasted from 2 years to just a few months each. They were a mix of cybersex/phonesex/and in person. He also had very close friendships with about another 10 women on the internet.


We are in recovery as husband was in the process ending all the affairs when I found out. As soon as I found out he stopped contact with all women he'd met on the internet.

Living together

OW were divorced/separated/married - a good mix.

OWemen were from Internet

We are not discussing a divorce. Trying to work things out.

Following principles of MB

one month in the Marriage Builders forums

Very personal… Very optional…
(no need to respond to these unless you think you want to/can help someone)

2 children from his previous marriage (Girl 11, Boy 13)
1 child from my previous marriage (Boy 12)

Husband has custody of his children
I have custody of my son

We are each in counseling separately

On medication/anti-depressants-yes

Mid-Life Crisis involved - who knows

Alcoholism involved - no

Has there been STD as a result of affair - don't think so. Will not know unti second set of test are done in a year

Abuse Involved? - No

Suicide attempted? - No

Lesbian/Gay issues? - No

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posted May 25, 2001 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for zorweb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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dun_z
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posted May 29, 2001 09:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dun_z     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Female

32 and 35

Betrayed

10 years married

5 years have known spouse before marriage

9 months since "discovery"/Pre-discovery

18 months total length of the affair

Both EA&PA

## of Affairs 1 long term, 20 + prostitutes/one night stands

Currently in: Plan A

Something else AND for how 9 months

Living together

OP is: married

OP is: co-worker

Has divorce been: discussed/requested by me

Following principles of: MB

1 months on the Marriage Builders forums

Very personal… Very optional…
(no need to respond to these unless you think you want to/can help someone)


2 children of the marriage (ages)4/5

Who has physical custody? joint

Are there Other Children(OCs) involved (pregancy wrt to wayward)? no

In counseling? Alone/with Spouse

On medication/anti-depressants?… What kind? Serzone, Sonato, Ativan,

Mid-Life Crisis involved? NOPE

Alcoholism involved? YEP

Has there been STD as a result of affair? So far, no.

Abuse? Only aftre D-Day

Suicide attempted? NO

Lesbian/Gay issues? YEP...fantasy only

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Invictus
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posted May 31, 2001 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Invictus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Male
I am 32 and my W is 27
I am the Betrayed
# years married: 5
# years have known spouse before marriage: 4
# months since 4 months since d-day
# months total length of the affairs: 9 years 1 respite around wedding
Both EA and PA
## of Affairs (approximate): 6 admitted, God only knows
Counseling, Praying, Christian Radio
OM were single, married, young, much older, ugly, good looking, rich, poor etc.
She met them through "friends"
No Divorce unless she strays again
Following principles of: God
# children 3
Wife says no abortions, but she could lie
W is on anti-depressants
Alcoholism? I've tried it, but it doesn't work
STD human papiloma virus, we are now cured
Abuse? physical and emotional, verbal
No Suicides attempted
Lesbian/Gay issues? W's good friend is a secret bi-sexual!

W was sexually/physically/verbally abused and her family is the worst. W lied about having gotten counseling when it was discovered. She never got help until now. W has lied almost pathalogically. I grew up in the most neglectful home you could think of with Mom having mental health issues and Dad having emotional problems. Mostly Psychological abuse/physical abuse, some sexual abuse.

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kelley1
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posted May 31, 2001 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kelley1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1. female
2. I am 25 H is 33
3. I am the betrayed
4. it will be 1 year in June
5. knew each other 2-1/2 years before married
6. 3 months since D-day
7. total length of affairs one was ongoing before we met and the other was 6 months
8. EA & PA
9. 2 affairs
10. no plans
11. Living together
12. OP #1 is single & 38 yr old #2 is single and 19 yrs old
13. OP #1 was a old acquintance #2 was a co-worker
14. Divorce has been discussed he has told me several times to send him divorce papers but at this point I refuse to
15. not following any principles right now
16. have been reading posts for a couple weeks now

optional
1. no children
2. n/a
3. n/a
4. went to counselor once by myself, he has seen our pastor once by himself and we have seen our pastor once together he is refusing to see a counselor because he claims there is nothing wrong with him
5. no meds
6. no mid life
7. we both stopped drinking for personal and spiritual reasons about 2 years ago but he was drinking occasionally during affair
8. we have herpes from #1
9. no abuse
10. no suicide attempted
11. no lesbian/gay issues
12. second affair started 3 months after we got married he was trying to "help" her with some issues she had by telling her about God - first affair supposedly was physical before we met but not after we started seeing each other until he started to feel bad about #2 and slept with #1 again REVISION:just found out #1 has been in the picture for quite some time. Stopped when we got engaged April 1999 then started up again in February 2001 because he figured he had messed up anyway with #2???????
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Kale-IM
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posted June 19, 2001 09:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kale-IM     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1) Male
2) I am 29; W is 28
3) Betrayed
4) Married 9 years
5) My W and I knew each other for 2 1/2 years before we got married
6) 1.5 months since D-Day
7) Her affair lasted about 2 1/2 months
8) Both EA & PC affair
9) As far as I know this is the only affair
10) Currently in recovery
11) We are together
12) OP is married
13) OP is from a meeting she had in town, and they continued on-line before they got together
14) I discussed divorce
15) Followed my own instincts until I discovered MB
16) Been on MB forums for 5 weeks

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aeroman
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posted June 22, 2001 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aeroman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Male
Your Age 49 and Spouse's Age 44
Betrayed
25 years married
1989 for first two 1999 for third time
1st one 1 mth 2nd 1 mth 3rd 4mths
all 3 Both EA&PA
3Affairs (CONFESSED)
Recovery 2 years
Living together
OP is: 1st single, 2nd single 3rd married
OP is: 1st and 2nd co-worker 3rd from Internet
divorce not a question for me, w asked for one 2yrs ago i said no
Following principles of: Godly principles
0 months on the Marriage Builders forums

2...19 &17 children of the marriage (ages)
Who has physical custody? we
Are there Other Children(OCs) involved (pregancy wrt to wayward)? no
In counseling?have been marriage counselors
On medication/anti-depressants?… no What kind?
Mid-Life Crisis involved? no
Alcoholism involved? no
Has there been STD as a result of affair? no
Abuse? no
Suicide attempted? thought about by w
Lesbian/Gay issues? no

First two affairs were with men of different race, third was with a preacher who was giving "good" advice on the internet. We are recovering nicely but when I mentioned some of the basic principles of this web site she got mad, especially the one of radical honesty. So maybe there is more that I don't know about. We were counselors at a large church in the south for 6 years....2 years later she had her first one!! So much for that. I still, even after 2 years have to include myself in recovery....It takes time, so be patient.

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