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LadyK
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posted April 17, 2000 10:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LadyK     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I just wanted to say I finally broke down and bought the book "Torn Asunder". So far (currently reading chapter 2) it is a great book. I read "After the Affair" in February (not long after d day) and found that book good, but compared to this one, it wasn't what we needed.

What struck me so far in this book is the fact that 1) it's christian based and 2) it doesn't sugar coat anything.

Far too many couples try to heal themselves (us included) and are afraid to admit it's happened (or is happening) to them. I think we all would be surprised at how many of our friends and family have gone through this. Outside intervention needs to be a part of the healing and rebuilding.

A very important point made in this book is that if this is not resolved and fully dealt with now, it will only fester and add to future marital bliss. Even if you split and divorse over this, it will come to light again in future relationships. It needs to be addressed and resolved!

Thank you, HGBrawner, for all the wonderful reviews you've given this book. It is one I will always recommend.

I've also ordered "Surviving An Affair" and "Love Busting" from this site. I can't wait to get them.

If you haven't read this book, please borrow it from the library or buy it. If you are unfortunately going through this, it's a great investment (I really didn't want to purchase a book on this subject and the libraries don't carry it).

Good luck and God Bless!!

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HGBrawner
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posted April 17, 2000 08:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HGBrawner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm so glad you like the book! I know, I wish we never had to read it, but aren't we glad that there is something with a sound scriptural foundation to guide us through the valley?! I also understand your not wanting to buy a book on infidelity....but I look at it this way - If we are going to reach out and minister to others, it will serve as a valuable resource to refer to. I've got a couple of other books on the subject, plus books on anger management, forgiveness, and general marriage strengthening. I was encouraged by a counselor friend to begin a "personal reference library" for the future....I believe they will come in handy.

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"They that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength. They shall mount up with wings as eagles, they shall run and not be weary, they shall walk and not faint." Isaiah 40:31

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LadyK
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posted April 18, 2000 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LadyK     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, HGB,

I've missed your posts. I've moved back to the just found out board. I posted a lengthy thread over there this morning called Old Unresolved Issues. If you get a chance and can get there to read and add some wonderful insights it would be greatly appreciated.

I'm so disappointed in where we're at right now that I don't even feel like reading more of this book.

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Gonnatry
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posted April 18, 2000 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gonnatry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I too have read both and found them both valuable. I read "After The Affair" first based on a post I saw in alt.support.divorce. It helped me to put words to my feeling (I'm the "hurt") and help me to understand what my W is/has been going through (the "betrayer"). It also helped me to see better what I did to contribute to the environment that made her vulnerable to an affair. This does not justify her having one but has helped me focus on resolving the root causes to help us recover and prevent reoccurrence. Torn Asunder is EXCELLENT in that it helps me more spiritually identify what has happened and that a path to healing does exist. Whether W and I remain married is still in question but I will become better for the experience in the end.

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Alcoholic's Wife
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posted April 19, 2000 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alcoholic's Wife     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I ordered Torn Asunder yesterday. Been having a lot of problems dealing with everything lately, and counseling is not helping me. Hope this book does. I also ordered Beloved Unbeliever.

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LadyK
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posted April 25, 2000 05:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LadyK     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi,

Since stocking my "personal reference library" I really haven't gotten into any of the books. Has anyone else experienced an overload on all this? I took a break from them and started reading a James Patterson novel to take my mind off all this betrayel crap.

For the most part I'm feeling pretty good about my marriage and my H. I have had a couple major triggers the last 24 hours and I think that's why I'm posting again. I had even felt over loaded from the board (not the people, just the subject).

We just got on-line at home and I think this scares me greatly. My H and I are registered on yahoo so we can play chess on-line. I mainly wanted to play against my H during our lunch hour, but he's been playing quite a bit without me. Our boys were logged in as him over the week-end and "he" received an instant message from a woman in another state who he had played weeks ago. She said she thought he was sexy, blah, blah, blah. The boys were stunned and came running to get us.

My H said she was a little obnoxious during their game, but he remained focused on the game. He said he hadn't played her since and I did check that out (he was truthful). I responded to the IM saying I was his wife and to refrain IMing his screen name again. He saw what I typed to her and he thought we handled it appropriately (I keep asking if he hears from her and he says no).

The next night he and I were on under his name and she IMd to apologize. She used his first name and I've been obsessing about how personal the conversation went during the game if she knew his name.

I'm very nervous about all this on-line stuff even though I'm glad we have access at home now.

I hope this lady was just IMing anyone who would chat with and not because they have exchanged photos and e-mail addresses, etc. It's hard to trust him after what he's done to me.

Thank you for "listening".

God Bless.
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K
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posted April 26, 2000 08:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for K     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LadyK:

Have you and your husband discussed the "Policy of Joint Agreement?" It's a key component of recovery (assuming that both spouses are on board. It states that you don't do anything without a "mutually enthusiastic agreement" between the two of you.

It sounds like your husband's on-line activities are an issue. You ought to try to discuss it with him, and brainstorm to come up with a "win-win" solution. You need to come up with a "plan" for him to regain your trust by exhibiting the proper behaviors. And I'm not looking to send you back to the bookstore, but Harley's book "Give and Take" focuses a lot on the POJA and how to negotiate successfully. It also has brief(er) sections on Lovebusters and Emotional Needs, so for people in recovery, I like to recommend this book as the first one they read.

Surviving an Affair is best for strategies during an affair, how to cope, and what motivates people to have affairs.

I found that Torn Asunder was better applied to situations in which the spouses were back together and in recovery. If your spouse is willing to do the recovery exercises that are outlined in this book, it certainly can help build a marriage after an affair. Carder's techniques for dealing with an affair that's "in progress" are pretty much the standard (and less successful) techniques. He also gives a good description of the affair "process" (as does Harley and Abrahms do).

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Gonnatry
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posted April 26, 2000 08:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gonnatry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LadyK,

I too have quite a library (and growing) of books including Torn Asunder. I'm reading books about relationships, parenting, personal growth, spirituality with a little Bible and ZEN thrown in every now and then. I too get "burned out" because it's too much to absorb in such a short time. However, my insomnia gives me plently of time to read and reflect. I find myself diving into one or more of them when I have a bad "episode" (depression, anger, etc.). Otherwise, I have put myself on a schedule, working a chapter or two in one book at a time. For me, it helps me focus on the material better and improves my comprehension and atitude a bit. My wife and I will soon spearate for the summer. Looks like I'll have plenty of time to "catch up" on my reading.

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LadyK
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posted April 26, 2000 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LadyK     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi,

Thank you for the replies.

K: I'm hoping the issue of my H's on-line time is more of me being insecure. I do think we need to discuss how we handle on-line time. I know he's on-line a lot at work, but didn't think too much of it until I see how much he gets on at home. Maybe the novalty of it will wear off after a while, it's new to us at home.

Gonnatry: I'm sorry to hear you'll be separating from your wife. I pray things work out for both of you!

Thanks again, everyone, for being such wonderful support!

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